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Friday, October 01, 2004

Bush is leading a pack of lies...

"details have emerged showing the U.S. government and a representative of President Bush's reelection campaign had been heavily involved in drafting the speech given to Congress last week by interim Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi."
From the When you are willing to win your way at all costs, there is a very very very big bill waiting dept.

4 comments:

Matt said...

Bush's lies are easier to understand that Kerry's "confusing contradictions". His supporters have faith in the man, and that is very difficult to change. If you have faith based politics, logic and reason don't necessarily affect your choices.

Arguing with a Bush supporter is like arguing religion with a true believer. If you ever get some traction in the conversation, the other side just trumps you by exhibiting the Bible, or in this case something they heard on Fox news ("Kerry is a flip-flopper" or "He voted against the 87 billion"). I think I will just write those folks off and move on. Who are these undecided voters anyway?

gberke said...

That was the fundamental arugument in a Thesis "The Place of Reason in Ethics" that I had years ago in a philosophy course: that the two spheres belief and non belief have no intersection, they are mutually distinct closed sets.
Faith is the acceptance as fact without evidence. To that a voter is positioned by "faith", that voter does not move. You cannot argue from outside the set. Period.
In most cases, faith is much less like loyalty that it is like superstition and thoughtlessness.
As for Kerry's positions: a national figure should not think outloud.

Matt said...

A two party political system where we have the believers and the non-believers sounds like very bad news to me. I want the old Republican party back...

Ken said...

I am an independent McCainiac who hopes to revive the Bull Moose tradition of Theodore Roosevelt, and I support the Kerry-Edwards agenda. Don't get me wrong -- this Bull Moose is not completely in agreement with the Democratic donkey. But the Bush administration has betrayed the effort to create a new politics of national greatness in the aftermath of 9/11.

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At the darkest moment of World War II, Winston Churchill, defiant, taunted the enemy. "What kind of a people do they think we are?" The answer that mattered back then was British, not German. And so it might matter today, were we to ask ourselves, What kind of a people do we think we are?It might matter especially to America's conservatives, at least to the growing minority of conservatives who, ranging in mood from aghast to apoplectic, find it ever more difficult to support President Bush. It matters because, in a close race, these former stalwarts may well determine the result, by abstention or by "vengeance vote." And it matters because now is as good a time as any to rethink conservatism, what's left of it, as a movement, and to ask a single, ineluctable question.